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**Wild Cat** · 11-03-2009, 05:25 AM

there are other holidays to have fun on you don't need to dress up like zombies and celebrate demons, murder and violence to have fun

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THE HARM OF HALLOWEEN

What harm could there be in Halloween? Halloween can be a dangerous and harmful day and here are some reasons why.

* HALLOWEEN EMPHASIZES VIOLENCE AND DEATH

An article from an Ann Landers column gives us an idea of the harm of Halloween. The title of her column was "Parents must tackle violence." The parent wrote, "I heard something today that made my hair stand on end. I hope you will deal with it in your column because it is a symptom of a problem that warrants deep concern. Last October, the teacher of a fourth grade class asked her students to write a short essay on what they would like to do most to celebrate Halloween. Eighty percent of her 9 year-olds expressed the wish to `kill somebody.' Where do children get such ideas? I believe it is fair to say that they get them from movies or TV.

This letter hit the nail on the head! All parents ought to be concerned. Halloween is desensitizing our children by its glorification of violence, death, mutilation and gore.

Consider for a moment the "Nightmare on Elm Street", "Halloween", and "Friday the 13th" film series. They are popular viewing fare at Halloween parties. Who or what inspires these "actors"? Robert Englund who plays mass murderer Freddy Krueger in the "Nightmare on Elm Street" series says he draws his inspiration from the late Ted Bundy, who raped and murdered more than 28 women. Englund told Slaughterhouse magazine, "I just read an article on Ted Bundy, so a lot of my imagery is based on him."

At the least, exposure to sadism, sexual violence, satanism, torture, mutilation and bizarre murders causes our kids to become calloused to these behaviors. But, Harriet Kozkoff, a public TV producer told the press, "Entertainment is a powerful socializing agent in contemporary society. Slasher and horror movies...use violence and sexual arousal to maximize profits and are an inevitable prescription for conditioning sexual sadism into our pre-teen, teenage and young adult film fans."

Psychiatrist Dr. Thomas Radecki said, "Every year film violence and real-life violence continues to get worse. We must protest and stop this growing sadism in our homes, schools, and on our streets."

Obviously, the problem is wider than just on Halloween. But TV programming and video rentals of violent horror films is at its peak at Halloween.

Halloween is harmful because of its emphasis on violence and death.

* HALLOWEEN EMPHASIZES HORROR AND FEAR

An article in the Milwaukee Journal, entitled "Haunted House Fun: It could become a nightmare for kids" stated, "It's just for fun, you know that. But to a young child, a trip through a `haunted house' created for Halloween could be a nightmare." Psychologist Marvin Berkowitz of Marquette University said, "Some haunted houses can frighten an adult." He warned that a child must "go in with the right mental set." He said, "Make sure they know it's going to be a fun scare, not a real scare." The article went on to say that even though you do your best to let the child know this he can be traumatized by such an experience."

Exposing a vulnerable child can have harmful consequences that run the spectrum from nightmares to emotional damage. In fact, Dr. Grace Ketterman, M.D. says in her book, You and Your Child's Problems, "A tragic by- product of fear in the lives of children as early as preadolescence is the interest and involvement in supernatural occult phenomena."

Halloween is harmful because of its emphasis on fear and horror.

* HALLOWEEN EMPHASIZES THE OCCULT

Halloween is harmful because it lures people into the occult. Many children are introduced to occultic practices at Halloween parties. Many kids get their first exposure to occultic horror movies at Halloween parties. After the initial exposure to the occult some children are attracted to the occult because of the power it offers them. Others see it as the ultimate means of rebelling against there parents.

* Other things that lure children into the occult --

1. Black & heavy metal music

2. Fantasy Role playing games

3. Slasher/horror movies & sadistic pornography

4. Reading occult & satanic literature

People who would not ever involve themselves with the occult at any other time will experiment at Halloween parties with seances, Ouija boards, levitation, rituals and ritual sex.

Did you know that Devil's Night (the night before Halloween) is the worst night of the year for ARSON FIRES? In Detroit, Michigan in 1983, 450 fires were set by pranksters. To add to the trauma, more personal property is defaced and public buildings damaged at this time than any other time of the year.

What about Trick-or-Treat? In Milwaukee, Wisconsin hospitals x-ray candy received while "begging" to be sure no foreign objects, like pins or razor blades, were in the goodies.

Malicious Halloween pranks even kill people, like the lady who had a pumpkin dropped on her car from an overpass. It went through her window and caused her death.

SUMMARY
Halloween is a sinister day with occultic roots. As we move along in the last days an increasing number of people are realizing that Halloween is a pagan worship day. It is day that honors false gods, demons and Satan. I have no desire to enter into the worship of false gods nor honor the devil. I hope after considering this study you will agree and decide NOT TO CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN.

Here is the full article

**Nutz** · 11-03-2009, 10:14 AM

Ann Landers? Ann Landers?

Halloween, one of the world's oldest holidays, is still celebrated today in several countries around the globe. The autumn rite is commemorated in the United Kingdom, although with a surprising and distinctive British twist. In Mexico, Latin America, and Spain, All Souls' Day, the third day of the three-day Hallowmas observance, is the most important part of the celebration for many people. In Ireland and Canada, Halloween, which was once a frightening and superstitious time of year, is celebrated much as it is in the United States, with trick-or-treating, costume parties, and fun for all ages.

The word itself, "Halloween," actually has its origins in the Catholic Church. It comes from a contracted corruption of All Hallows Eve. November 1, "All Hollows Day" (or "All Saints Day"), is a Catholic day of observance in honor of saints. But, in the 5th century BC, in Celtic Ireland, summer officially ended on October 31. The holiday was called Samhain (pronounced sow-in), which means "end of summer", the Celtic New year.

The custom of trick or treating probably has several origins. During Samhain, the Druids believed that the dead would play tricks on mankind and cause panic and destruction. They had to be appeased, so country folk would give the Druids food as they visited their homes.

An old Irish peasant practice called for going door to door to collect money, breadcake, cheese, eggs, butter, apples, etc., in preparation for the festival of St. Columb Kill.

Also a ninth-century European custom called souling. On November 2, All Souls Day, early Christians would walk from village to village begging for "soul cakes" made out of square pieces of bread with currants. The more soul cakes the beggars would receive, the more prayers they would promise to say on behalf of the dead relatives of the donors. At the time, it was believed that the dead remained in limbo for a time after death, and that prayer, even by strangers, could expedite a soul's passage to heaven.

Nothing more nothing sinister.

It's not a celebration as much as it is now a commercialized tradition no less harmless in nature than Christmas.

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heavy metal music

What makes people violent is ignorance, poor role models, and lack of punishment fitting the crime.
Ironically what Ms. Landers propagates is the lie that violence is on the rise when it is in fact the opposite
All violent crimes are at there lowest levels ever.

**end rant**

This is nice. We haven't had a good discussion around here for awhile.

**Wild Cat** · 11-03-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutz

Ann Landers? Ann Landers?

I've no idea who she is, I just read the article and I happened to agree with some of the points it has,

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Originally Posted by Nutz

What makes people violent is ignorance, poor role models, and lack of punishment fitting the crime.

And who are the roll models? Those rap and heavy metal and whatever else so called musicians who are frequently caught crying a weapon, or committing a crime, and not really being punished..... violent movies like the horrors mentioned earlier...

Kids and young people are being desensitized to crime and violence, no lie said there, many think it's funny to see animals or humans suffer, dog fighting for example is on the rise....thanks to some rappers who even use it in their music videos...... it is "cool" now, no matter that the animals are in pain.....

**Romanus** · 11-03-2009, 01:50 PM

Just to throw this out there...

**Nutz** · 11-03-2009, 01:55 PM

Nice legs. O.o

Larah · 11-03-2009, 01:58 PM

cityrailsaints · 11-03-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutz

Ann Landers? Ann Landers?

The autumn rite

In Australia it's spring

**Wild Cat** · 11-04-2009, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cityrailsaints

In Australia it's spring

so it is,

but if you read where the "holiday" originated, then you will see that it was autumn there, no need to mix Australia in every thread and subject!....lol

cityrailsaints · 11-04-2009, 11:41 PM

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but if you read where the "holiday" originated, then you will see that it was autumn there

I know that, Australia got discovered January 26 177. Back then preatty much every country was in the northern hemisphere thus October is Autum (or fall as known in the US) I was just stating the fact that it is not inly autum

**Romanus** · 11-06-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cityrailsaints

I know that, Australia got discovered January 26 177. Back then preatty much every country was in the northern hemisphere thus October is Autum (or fall as known in the US) I was just stating the fact that it is not inly autum

OMFG did you not read what she said? Stop commenting on Australia in every good gorram post, it does nothing for our evaluation of you. If you want respect - and friends, as I see you have requested me - act mature and speak intelligently. This topic is about Halloween, I would suggest you either stay on topic or develop this thread in a certain way that is beyond absurd comments about Australia being in the southern hemisphere and gotting discovered in 177.

Not only is it wrong, not only is it badly written, not only does it have grammar the style of a first grader, not only is it off-topic...it's stupid. Stop talking about stupid things, that will earn you respect I promise.

cityrailsaints · 11-06-2009, 07:26 PM

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